Lisa & Gary Cram x Ep. 57

“Play parties are important because they take
sex out of isolation and they say, “Go ahead,
look. This is natural, we do this, and it’s okay
to look at it.” However, there are ways to watch
something because watching is participating,
and you will affect the thing you are watching
by the energy with which you are watching it”

“Play parties are important because they take
sex out of isolation and they say, “Go ahead,
look. This is natural, we do this, and it’s okay
to look at it.” However, there are ways to watch
something because watching is participating,
and you will affect the thing you are watching
by the energy with which you are watching it”

Making a Long-Term Marriage Work with Lisa & Gary Cram

“Once I saw that intimacy and deeper trust was going to be the outcome of me sharing vulnerably, it became an exciting moment that I wanted to repeat—I wanted to share my heart again and take another opportunity to not be rejected.”

Today on That Sex Chick:

  • Lisa & Gary’s origin story and their initial commitment to friendship

  • How physical touch can be a key part of communication

  • Learning how to share traumas for deeper intimacy & trust

  • Being on the same team no matter what comes your way

  • Asking questions to help identify issues & the root of fear

  • Cultivating non-judgment with your partner and yourself


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Please welcome to the show Jordan’s Auntie Lisa and Uncle Gary! Lisa and Gary played a big role in the man Jordan’s become, and in today’s episode, you’ll see this reflected in the way Lisa and Gary talk about their personal growth and how they’ve cultivated a lasting, fulfilling marriage. Get ready as they take you on their beautiful journey, sharing nuggets of wisdom on effective communication, creating intimacy, and committing to self-exploration.

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